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Shopping for pearls at online auctions in the USA |
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Online auctions are a thrill. Ok, granted, I never have been into auctions before; thought it was something for bored folks with lots of money to spend on things they didn't really wanted nor needed in the first place. The internet has changed my mind - now I know I need things. I have now been selling and buying a lot of minor things on different online auctions, such as the german online auction alando [e], or at the american pendant "eBay" [e]. So far, my experiences as a buyer has mostly been ok (except for a lady who got away with 60 DM without ever shipping the goods). As a seller I wish I sometimes never had thought about putting the goods for sale in the first place; it can happen that you get very little to nothing for the stuff and then you might be bound to sell it anyway (this is the case on alando, on eBay you can put up a "reserved price" and if it's not met, you're not bound to sell). Anyways... What's the price difference between US online auctions and buying the stuff regularly in Europe? I can't speak for the whole of Europe here nor of all of the online auctions in the States. It looks though like it's normally between 20-40% cheaper in the USA - before any taxes, shipping, insurance and other charges have been added. |
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Children
parading in folklore clothing on the "Heimattage" in our little
city Huefingen/Germany 1995. |
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Before placing the bid |
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Let's
talk buying in the US of A. eBay has a lot of Nikon stuff on sale. Mostly
it's over 1.000 items(!) You can find lots of lenses there, mainly older
ones, but also lots of new stuff. Camera bodies are also plentiful (as I
checked today, May 21st 1999, there were four F5's and six F100's, all in
excellent condition for sale).
Most sellers starts with a redicilously low price, such as 1 USD or 9,90 USD or so. They then hope that lots of people will bid on their goods (and people do - you can easily find goods with bids from over one hundred individuals). The price rapidly increases and you will very likely never be able to get, let's say a fully functional F90X for something like 200 USD (that would be a bargain!). The sellers are often companies (even if eBay is supposedly a "private-to-private" auction) and they dump a lot of their used stuff on eBay. I'm not sure if what they sell sometimes might be "grey market" equipment, but I guess so. AFAI understood it, "grey market" means "not through normal sales/distribution channels". This doesn't equal to illegal stuff. Most sellers seems serious to me. There are crooks out there though. If you feel insecure, check out the neighbor to neighbor area [e] at Philip Greenspun's photo.net [e], where a lot of sellers and buyers are listed with comments from other individuals (mainly praises, but also beware comments). These
are a couple of the things I look at when buying at eBay 2. Is the
seller willing to ship to Europe? Some folks don't want to sell their
stuff outside of the USA. 3. What kind
of rating does the seller has? (they are rated by former buyers). I would
be a bit wary about someone selling expensive equipment with no history
record available. Most sellers have a huge rating record though. 4. How is
the feedback on this seller? (the buyers sends feedback on the sellers). 5. Is a picture provided? I like pictures of the items I am about to buy. It's a plus if there are close up shots of items so one might be able to detect dents and scratches etc. 6. If there's
anything I want to know about the item which isn't described, I send the
seller a short e-mail with the questions before placing any bid. Placing the bid If the item looks good after the above evaluation, I might place a bid - if I am seriously interested in it. I normally don't place a bid much higher than the current maximum bid. This means that I can get a screen telling me that I'm outbid directly after placing it. This is because many people have their "robots" or "agents" automatically increasing their bids for them. If I'm outbid - and if I'm not too emotional about the whole affair - I rethink the whole thing before placing a new bid. It's easy to end up bidding on stuff which is no more interesting - compared to the prices here in Europe. |
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market in the city of Villingen, southern Germany. December 1999. Nikon F5, Nikkor AF 50mm/1.4 on Fujichrome Provia 100F. |
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After the bid |
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Calculating the costs Hey! You should have done this before placing the bid. Generally, there are a lot of costs involved which one easily forgets. The costs involve: 1. Import
tax Import
tax Value
added tax General
customs fee Costs
of having an international money order issued Most US folks
seems to like the Western Union (a bank) type of money orders. I guess
the major reason is that they can cash them all over the place and they
are really safe. Shipping and insurance It's not that steep I think. For the 425 USD lens, it was 25 USD with the US Post as Express delivery (some 400g) incl. insurance. For the F5 it was significantly more, some 87 USD for 1kg with the UPS as Express, also insured at 1.625 USD. I don't think I would like to ship anything without having it insured. So, the calculation for a body bought (and declared) for let's say 1.000 USD would be: 1. 4,2% import
tax. Makes 42 USD. In all, your 1.000 USD body, is now of a sudden worth some 1.252 USD - anyway to you. This would be an increase of some 25%. As you can easily figure out, if the original purchase price was only 25% lower than the comparable price in your own country, you didn't make a deal. Low value items, I think this is below DM 400,- in Germany, are typically charged with 13,5% (in Germany) of the declared value, i.e. not the 20,2% as in the above calculation. Now, you have paid for the item, you know the seller got the money, and you're eagerly waiting for it to arrive. I didn't have any problems at all with the sellers so far, and it was really a pleasure to deal with them e-mail wise. The americans are normally very helpful. But I don't need no customs! 1. You do. If you try to get the goods in, being declared redicilously low, let's say in the box there's a Leica R8 and it's declared for 100 USD and on the custom's slip the friendly seller wrote "broken, old Kodak Instamatic". It might very well happen that the scan (yes, most customs have X-ray) detects the beautiful R8 in it and one of the fellows at a monitor says to himself "well, that's no Kodak Instamatic". Now, if they open up the parcel, they might very well send it back, stating that it was not "declared correctly" - anyway in Germany. 2. Even if your friendly seller writes "old lense, gift, worth 150 USD, not for resale" on the custom's slip. It's likely that your efficient, privatedly owned carrier (i.e. UPS et al), does the custom work for you, i.e. you simply receive a small slip attached on the box, stating "you will receive an invoice for custom charges in the next week or two". Beware that UPS may also charge you some DM 75,- for "expedition charges" plus for additional shipping if you decide that you want them to send the goods to a custom office in your vicinity. This added some DM 135,- to the price of the 1kg "heavy" F5 parcel. |
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